We need to beat swords into plowshares.

We need to beat swords into plowshares.

Monday, October 4, 2010

Was the purpose of the One Nation rally to show Glenn Beck we could out-do him or hold Obama’s and the Democrat’s “feet to the fire?”

  • Alan L. Maki

    It's not about convincing Glenn Beck about anything... it is about uniting the American people--- liberals, progressives and the left--- around a common program for real change... Harry Belafonte properly framed the issues better than anyone... now where is the program advocating specific solutions to our problems to match?
    A program that explains to the American people how Obama's wars are killing jobs just like they kill people.
    Certainly no one is advocating waiting for Barack Obama and the Democrats to deliver change on their own?
    By the way--- not many of the speakers held Barack Obama's "feet to the fire." How come?See More

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  • Rhonda Stevens

    It is hard to come together when you have to tape record most any conversation you have because the next day, it can be something that it was not. I am making a point about integrity. Obama is doing the best he can. These wars were handed t...o Obama on a blood soaked silver platter. He is dealing with a dishonest republican party that intends to take care of the rich and put a lot of Americans in the street and hungry. Sorry, what you propose offers me nothing. Obama's walked into hell his first day in office because of what was dumped on him. Anyone notice how much money/profit corporations are making? But few are hiring though. strange. Obama 2012See More

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  • Janice Woodfork Montgomery HE PROBABLY SAYS MUCH WORST IN PRIVATE

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  • Alan L. Maki

    It is, in fact, very hard to "come together" when we have people claiming to be speaking about change trying to silence those with whom they disagree--- as the organizers of One Nation did and a Obama is doing with his raids, subpoenas and ...Grand Jury inquisitions against peace activists.
    I would note, no voices such as mine were tolerated as speakers in order to provide those participating in the One Nation rally the opportunity to hear what is missing from the conversation.
    My words are written and recorded right here for anyone to read. Perhaps we need to have Democrats running for public office sign a written statement informing us just what kind of specific solutions to our crisis of everyday living they have in mind... in hindsight we sure should have made Barack Obama placed all of this in writing because he has turned out to be the ultimate con-artist and flim-flam man extraordinaire--- more like a corporate health insurance salesman than a president.
    First of all, Rhonda, the Democrats were every bit as involved in starting these wars as were the Republicans... the blood is dripping from both their hands.
    Second, Obama sought this job and it is obvious he lied about the "change" he led people to believe he was for.
    Third, Obama only has to call on the American people to back him up should he want to take on the Wall Street coupon clippers and the warmongering merchants of death and destruction.
    You are implying it is all a matter of giving Obama time... well, how about you explaining what you think Obama is going to accomplish and how much time we should give him?
    Furthermore, even if we assume tat you are correct, and I am not willing to make this assumption, that Barack Obama comes to this discussion about these wars with clean and unbloodied hands, Bush did not hand Obama the long-term OCCUPATION of Iraq, nor did Bush hand Obama orders to expand the war in Afghanistan... Obama did all of this on his own... after over 100 years both Puerto Rico and the Philippines are still being occupied by the United States after similar imperialist wars.
    Obama has been in office for almost two years and the notorious School of the Americas is still receiving funding while our public schools are not being funded; Obama and the Democrats are willing to make funds available to teach murder and torture but unwilling to adequately fund public schools to teach our own kids to read and write.
    We listened to speaker after speaker at the One Nation rally intentionally skirt the fact that these wars (no matter who is to blame for starting them) kill our jobs the same way they kill people.
    And, what about single-payer universal health care... running for office Obama said the Canadian system works great; what do we get from him? The "Health Insurance and Pharmaceutical Industry Bailout and Profit Maximization Act of 2010.See More

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  • Midge Hough Oh please....you are so out of line with this crap!

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  • Alan L. Maki

    Out of line with this "crap?" What "crap?"
    Out of line because I state my opinion which you would rather not be discussed because it is an embarrassment to Democrats?
    Or, out of line because like many people in this country they want accountability from those they vote for?See More

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  • Cheryl Jenkins Jackson ‎@Alan, what are you hoping to accomplish with your remarks? Are you trying to change hearts and minds or do you just need to vent?

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  • Alan L. Maki

    Cheryl; I don't think there are many hearts and minds to change; people are thoroughly fed up with politicians (Democrats and Republicans) who haven't been held accountable once elected.
    Might I ask what your intent is with this question since it seems to me my concerns are very legitimate and very well explained.
    Do you not think I have the right to question Obama pushing these dirty wars?See More

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  • Janice Woodfork Montgomery ‎@ALAN THIS IS A MIDGE HOUGH PAGE WE ARE ABOUT ONE NATION AND UNITY, WHAT ARE YOU ABOUT

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  • Cheryl Jenkins Jackson

    Ok Alan, fair enough. Yes you have the right to question, as do we all, but I don't understand the purpose for you doing it on Midge's page. She is not the enemy. If you think the POTUS is, it seems to me you should seek a better venue t...o voice your displeasure.
    IMO doing this on someone else's page seems more argumentative than just expressing a concern. It is pointless and is not serving a purpose, making it just as useless as you seem to think the president is.See More

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  • Alan L. Maki

    ‎@Cheryl; If Midge doesn't want to discuss the problems on her page she just has to say so; but, since she has stuck her two cents in concerning my comments on the One Nation facebook page I don't know why she would object to a discussion h...ere on her own page.
    Weren't her comments intended for discussion?
    Is someone being hurt by my comments?
    @Janice; My comments are about what it is going to take to unite people for change. I don't believe we will see unity for real change unless ending these wars becomes what it is, central to almost everything.
    How can a nation, any nation, continue to spend trillions of dollars killing people in other countries and then expect to solve problems of unemployment here at home?
    Barack Obama's Wall Street agenda based on war abroad and austerity and poverty at here at home doesn't offer us much in the way of anything to unite around.
    What do you think is the basis and foundation for "unity?"See More

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  • Midge Hough

    First of all, the one nation page does not belong to you. You did not even go to the march so you were there to cause trouble. Second of all I told you there that I did not want this to continue and you ignored me and here you are doing the... same thing again. I DON'T LIKE YOUR NEGATIVE self serving style. It's not about you Alan it's a much bigger issue. We have a choice come November and I chose my president over the right wing nut jobs out there. He will do the right thing but as I said earlier things are not black and white and there are many gray areas so you saying we have to stop these dirty wars today is ridiculous. It's a process!See More

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  • Lodis Dinwiddie

    ‎@ Cheryl & Midge, most of it you have to ignore and unbefriend them when it becomes unbearable. I think they mostly want to vent and make you as miserable as they all seem to be; they realize they all have a choice in this election, it...'s how the democratic process is structured. If the president had done absolutely everything right, there would still be dissidents out there saying he should have messed something up. My way is to ignore and let them vent or show them the door. Remember, none of them is president and haven't a clue as to what the hell goes on up thereSee More

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  • Alan L. Maki

    Midge, I didn't attend the march in person but I helped see to it that three carloads of people, very poor working people, employed in smoke-filled casinos at poverty wages without any rights under state or federal labor laws who work in the... Indian Gaming Industry were able to attend... this might not be anything but the subject of ridicule for you; but, let me tell you that several hundred people who get poverty wages helped pay the way for 17 people to attend the One Nation Rally.
    I am especially offended in your knocking me based on the fact that I didn't attend in person since anyone can check out my blog postings and see that I was thoroughly involved in encouraging many people to attend. That we don't have the resources and you never offered any makes your comment particularly offensive given that one of the main objectives of this rally was supposed to be about defending, protecting and winning better livelihoods for working people who are being mistreated by employers.
    Perhaps if you had to work in a smoke-filled casino without any rights under state or federal labor laws you might think twice about what you say and how you say it.
    You traveled to Washington by comfortable plane... our members traveled to Washington all cramped up in old cars and had to fix two flat tires.
    I find your remarks to be the epitome of snobbery and arrogance very typical of those who want to manipulate and control everything.
    As to your remarks, Lodis, I am no "dissident" complaining or whining about some trivial issues as you imply.
    Obama and the Democrats have not stopped these dirty wars which was the number one reason why the American people turned out in droves to get rid of the Republicans... the American people didn't want these dirty wars when they were Bush's wars and they don't want them now that they are Obama's wars.
    I could go on with a list of what I see as wrong with Obama and the Democrats... let's see how trivial you think this is:
    Barack Obama and the Democrats have spent around one-trillion dollars in "stimulus funds" supposedly with one primary purpose being to create jobs. jobs, jobs.
    But, the problem is, affirmative action (Executive Order #11246) was not enforced for these jobs. This is the very first Administration since Lyndon Johnson signed Executive Order #11246 where affirmative action has not been enforced.
    I wouldn't vote Republican unless Lincoln rose from the grave; but, I sure as heck won't for a bunch of Democrats implementing the Republican agenda and that is just what we have right now.

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